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Bud if we drop points again we will keep quiet because we wont be the potential EPL leaders and will have to earn our position to scream again.

What the suprising fact is though is that its only the liverpool fans that think Rafa has won, My friend read other websites besides LFC ones and you will see that the world is warning Rafa to be carefull because he is dealing with a master.

-napaman

I'm not saying rafa has won and this and that... I'm just saying that he got what he wanted, and this isnt coming from liverpool websites, its coming from me. I've watched the press conference with my own eyes... You the one commenting on things you read, not me!

All i'm saying that if Fergie says anything about liverpool now he'll be a hypocite coz he says united will do their talking on the pitch. Either he'll be a hypocrite, or he'll shut up. Everybody is speaking prematurely now, but this can go on until the end of the season... Well done rafa!!! Great move!

SAF 1 - 0 Rafa

What a joke!

Ok though i saw it somewhere but it was a headlines for this comment, but still good enough:

"I think when he reflects, he must surely realise what a ridiculous thing he was saying. But I'm not getting into that. I think that's enough.

"All I want to do is keep the focus on my team. If I can do that and we can play with that excitement of today, then we have a big chance."

All I want to do is focus on my team... Lets see! Hypocrite!

Heres another:

'They are not facts. But I am not going into it. We should concentrate on chasing the leaders, who are Liverpool. We have games in hand and we must use them.'

Now wonder the headlines "United to do talking on the pitch"

Anyway i dont care about this anymore, its becoming orexi and circles about the same thing. I feel sick arguing the whole day... Whatever topic we bring up... whatever it is.. We'll argue! We never agree so why even waste our time and irritate each other.

Peteskee, heard that your house is been converted to a race track?

Dr Karl Morris: Teaches in manchester, got or getting married in manchester, and worked with manchester united players so i persume he lives in manchester and is probably a United fan and hates Liverpool like the rest.

What a coincidence!

Secondly, Rafa has a Degree in sports Psycology so i doubt he'd be so predictable and not know what he's doing, instead of the other way round that Fergie knows and Rafa hasnt a clue.. Please, even a psycologist manchester united fan can speak crap to make his fellow supporters jump like monkeys!

Also if United lost this weekend Dr Karl Morris wouldn't have opened his mouth would he? if he even did because as far as i know it came out of the daily telegraph and these papers can speak a lot of crap.

What people dont realise is that since rafa's press conference, fergie hasnt said anything about liverpool and thats exactly what rafa wants... thats the whole reason why he said what he said. Another thing that is blown out of proportion is that the journalists made it sound like he lost it completely but in actual fact he sat there so calm an collected while he said all this, as well as praising fergie in the prossess, no agression, "just facts" .. as he says. Do people really think that he did it just for the chelsea game? I think that press conference was to benifit in the long term, the rest of the season... If Fergie says anything about liverpool now like he's been doing all season he'd just be proving rafa right.. So he's in a position now to just shut up.. Nice Rafa!!

If its the other way round i'd love to see Fergies face when he's just lost or drawn a game.. We'll see who got to who when that happens..

-rafalution19

Rafa, please bro...you really cant see the faults of your team and manager...he tried to play mind games with the SAF and it back fired...just admit it. how can you try justify with the bulshit you have said...come on bro. How can you say:

What people dont realise is that since rafa's press conference, fergie hasnt said anything about liverpool and thats exactly what rafa wants... thats the whole reason why he said what he said.

SAF did say something:

''There was a lot of venom in what he has said,'' reflected Ferguson. ''I don't understand where it has come from.

''He is obviously disturbed about something. When he reflects on it he must realise what a ridiculous thing he is saying. But all I want to do is focus on my own team. If we can do that we have a big chance.''

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=608791&cc=3888

And, Torres goes on to say United are favourites to win the title, why? If a united player said this SAF would eat him alive.

the simple matter is this, many have tried to play mind games with SAF, Mourinho, Wenger, Rafa. But too put it into context when two lions lock heads, one always walks away with his tail in between his legs... in this case...rafa. SAF is master of the mind games bro, Rafa has alot to learn.

The only reason that Benitez has done this according to opinion is to keep the spotlight off Gerrard and on him.
Nice thing to do i think commit suicide for your captain.

Now this would be a good reason to say such stupid things

I'm just saying its a coincidence that hes worked with united players.. He's done business with united.. He's got paid by united...

Maybe his right but how must believe his bullshit especially that Rafa has a degree for sports psycology himself, he must know what he's doing.. What do you think they just hand out degrees for free at the university of madrid?? Obviously you do.

And you wrong, all rafa wanted was to shut fergie up about those stupid comments he made about that liverpool choking and everything he's said about disrespecting liverpool. Rafa respected uniteds position the whole season and didnt say anything insulting until now, so liverpool expect the same but now its blown out of proportion. But like i said before obviously united feel threatened and hence the comments.. If we were 4th at this stage like we were last season Fergie wouldnt have commented on liverpool, how can he say united do the talking on the pitch but before that was speaking about how liverpool will be punished for mistakes? If he was doing the talking on the pitch he wouldnt have said that. He obviously said it to try rattle livepool. Now without much people realising yet rafa has put him in his place, if fergie says anything now like he said before he'd be a hypocrite. Bud, mark my words, united fans are going all crazy now but if you just drop pts in one game things change and then it will be you that will feel the pressure, especially afer all these comments. And if that happens i predict you guys keeping it low on these message boards once again

-rafalution19

No Rafa...i think that rafa is so threatened by SAF that he has had nightmares, i have never seen a manager pull out a piece of paper to list all the wrongs, it shows that SAF is eating rafa. and rafas latest attack on gill is bullshit too, if gill influenced the FA then why did evra get a 4 match ban. please bro. man u always get the heaviest punishment for bullshit. its the FAs way of saying, look what we did to man u, if you break the rules, you fucked.

No Rafa...i think that rafa is so threatened by SAF that he has had nightmares, i have never seen a manager pull out a piece of paper to list all the wrongs, it shows that SAF is eating rafa. and rafas latest attack on gill is bullshit too, if gill influenced the FA then why did evra get a 4 match ban. please bro. man u always get the heaviest punishment for bullshit. its the FAs way of saying, look what we did to man u, if you break the rules, you fucked.

-professor-shmilingi

No shmilingi, Fergie blamed the FA for handicapping united with the fixtures and completely got away with it... This happened after his touchline ban.. They should have done more punishment because he didnt learn before but they just let it go! Thats ridiculous!

Rooney waves his hands around cursing the ref in the game on sunday (on numourous occations).. Had to be recalled 3 times and didnt even get a yellow.. Why?? Man United!

This is seriously getting draining!

Peteskee, heard that your house is been converted to a race track?

-rafalution19

I cant believe that happened, pete i hear you have some photos

How can you say I cant see fault in liverpool when you oaks are exactly the same? Every time I bring up anything about liverpool.. You guys force me to have an arguement but saying something stupid.. It will never be complete honesty.. Just biasness!

e.g. I brought up Rafas press conference on Fri night and you guys made an arguement about it. Then when i back my team up you guys say i was been loud but forget how loud you guys were and what a load of crap you guys spoke...

You said Fergie didnt say anything about liverpool but then i proved it that he did:

"With the experience we've got - having won a couple of titles in the past couple of years especially - it helps you. There's no doubt about that.

"They're going into the unknown, and if you make mistakes, then you are punished."

Then you back him up like thats perfectly fine. I dont care what you guys say, the oaks was acting like a prick towards liverpool and it wasnt only now.. Hence Rafas press conference. Rafa wanted fergie to shut up and now he will.. If he doesnt hes a hypocrite... Well done rafa!

I was having a conversation with rafa this morning and I said i am very positive about the position we are in not only because of the way WE are playing but more importantly the way other teams are playing

Liverpools EPL Form since Beginning november is like this

LWWDDWDDWWD

Chelsea
WWWDLWDDWDL

United We have only played 10 games since beggining
WLWDWWDWWWW

I look at our losses and Draws and the against Spurs Villa Arsenal Away And we have built up awesome Momentum which i think we can sustain but i see it that Liverpool and Chelsea have lost that momentum and even if we do lose/draw a game we do have the team to get 19 points from 7 games and the other two dont YET. Yes they have the potential but will they.

i can here it now

" o look at this ARTETTTTTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA what a goal he has silenced anfield."

-napaman

Thats why i say the FA should hand the trophy to united from now.. The season is clearly over!

yes yes

how i not been involved on this forum over the past few days is beyond me

You say that i should be happy as a liverpool fan because of our momentum. Bud how can i listen to that crap? This is our best position in 19 years in the league but i must be unhappy? Every time i bring up a topic you will argue. All we've done on this message board is argue. All we do when we speak about football you argue. You hardly have anything good to say about liverpool so how do you expect me to ever agree? If you say something good you'll be taking the lime light away in another way. Like united would only take Gerrard and Torres from Liverpool. Or Gerrard is a great captain (as if he aint the best central midfielder in the world)... Those are the only decent things i've heard you say in a few years. Maybe 1 here and there, but it will be forced. Now that you guys broke chelsea and we drew to stoke, you on top if you win on saturday you guys are acting like you won the league already... So the best thing for me is just to agree! I havent watched the premier league since its started, I havent played the game since i was 10! I'm just a bias liverpool fan that likes to argue with united fans. Seriously bud, i'm really getting sick of it now!