http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,2483_4827264,00.html
Peteskee: Really think this is good news for you doggy
Spot on doggy!! great news as long as he replaces the right man in midfield JENAS and 'arry plays the team correct....i like him think he can get even better - we need more bite in the middle as it will not only plug gaps but give Modric in particular more freedom ;)
You want a point boys? Play at Anfield!
hehe...you want a win? play Spurs anywhere!!! Doggy ive been saying this for a very very long time but as long as u persist with a KUYT you will always lack that creativity and inventivness on the flanks to penetrate teams...he is so average for me its scary!! Anyways at least Stevie G and Torres are linking up again if they stay fit you got a great chance but i think Rafa must keep it wit Stevie behiind him....oh shit wot does that mean for Robbie? hahaha told u i didnt think u really needed him! Wot a waste of 20m...needed that desperately on a world class winger - Benitez FAIL!!!
hehe...you want a win? play Spurs anywhere!!! Doggy ive been saying this for a very very long time but as long as u persist with a KUYT you will always lack that creativity and inventivness on the flanks to penetrate teams...he is so average for me its scary!! Anyways at least Stevie G and Torres are linking up again if they stay fit you got a great chance but i think Rafa must keep it wit Stevie behiind him....oh shit wot does that mean for Robbie? hahaha told u i didnt think u really needed him! Wot a waste of 20m...needed that desperately on a world class winger - Benitez FAIL!!!
-peteskee
Definately, massive mistake signing keane if gerrard was the preffered choice. Obviously Rafa expected more from Keane. So did i to be honest, and i do think he's a better player than hes shown us so far. The point is the money could have been spent on a right winger. I was even saying that in the summer transfer window "we need to sign a world class right winger!" Kuyt isnt a fucking winger! He frustrates me game in game out. In the beginging of the season he was coming up with these winners and that but the majority of the time he plays average. I was saying last season we aint gonna ever win the league with players like kuyt and riise. Hopefully im wrong. I dont know what Rafa sees in him, surely it cant only be down to work rate? He gets into fantastic positions but is 80% of the time wastefull. Whats the point of that? I'd rather have babel on the right, he's just as wastefull but at least he has 5 times the creativity!
Yesterday was just a reminder of how much we've missed torres. The oak is class and the understanding he has with gerrard is sick! Like you say, if they both stay fit, great chance...
Touch of class his flick to Gerrard...def missed that! But now why cant he see he needs magic like that on the flanks? No doubt in my mind with classy wingers you would have wrapped up these 2 derbys and more....
You say this bout Robbie but how magic were Stevie and Torres last season why try change it? SPend the money on wingers...what an idiotic Rafa can be he could cost u ultimately the league this season...anyways like we said if they can stay fit u still there so no worries!
didn t really watch the united game peteskee, to much toli, tequila and scattered ass, was fucked bud only remember slight flashed, honest opinion about the game please.
Liverpool need to get rid of Rafa all i got to say.
Well i honestly only caught the last half an hour they werent showing it where i was so it is hard to say cos the game looked pretty sealed up by then...You guys probably deserved the game but was happy for a couple of reasons Dos Santos made a return :) and ye we put on a solid performance it seems in difficult times...wasnt expecting anything but congrats to you hope you win that and so we can take the CC...
Heard about Jason what a shocker!! Really gutted i missed it tho... :(
thanks for the review there peteskee. Did your brother get scared at the extent of our madness.
Benitez has the nerv to come out and critise Moyes' tactics of playing for a draw. I didnt watch the game but in a Cup-Tie in the FA cup i think its a Overstatement that they played for a draw only, they had a tactic and it really didnt work out for thenm i think every team in the FA cup plays for a WIN. Even if he did play for a draw to try get a win at home what is wrong with that? Remember the first leg semi final of the 2008 UCL at the Nou Camp SAF went for the draw and what did that get him..........The UCL. Benitez is losing his mind and his credibility at a rapid rate.
LOL ye he spoke of ur madness!! You guys never cease to amaze me...
Benitez is a clown for saying that what a hypocrite! What were Everton suppose to do with so many key players out? All they could do was be solid and hope for a goal to defend...it nearly worked if it wasnt for Howards shocking keeping! Anyways Benitez must fucken catch a wake up they lack quality width end of story...how these guys get these jobs and mantain em is beyond me! A fucken monkey could tell you Kuyt is no fucking world class winger! Id rather play Benayoun...
I've just been reading a couple of post on teamtalks forum adn went back into our forums past.
United till i die on Teamtalk:
This is why Liverpool fans are seen as such a joke on this site. Lessthan a month ago we had calls of Lucas is way better than Anderson,Kuyt and Rooney are the same, Rafa is a tactical genius, Liverpool arechampionship-winning material... now just one month later you're allsaying the exact opposite of those things. Even though the title is notwon and you cant still win it, I dont think you fans deserve it, yourelegendary for the support you give your club, well I cant see it!
And Sergio did have a stab and say this guy is better than Anderson and its obvious because Lucas is his captain. Now what do you think Rafa?
http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,1776_4872829,00.html
I really agree with this oak almost 100%. Rafas squad selection and his decision making is his downfall, and ours unfortunately.
Andrew, we have all said things we were wrong about. You guys said that O'Shea is more versitile than Steven Gerrard.
Hey you crook, can you log out of my account, HMMMMMMMMM he IS A CRIMINAL
http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,1776_4872829,00.html
I really agree with this oak almost 100%. Rafas squad selection and his decision making is his downfall, and ours unfortunately.
Andrew, we have all said things we were wrong about. You guys said that O'Shea is more versitile than Steven Gerrard.
This was posted by rafalution19
You see he is a good manager, you cant tell me he isnt. Because shit managers dont win cups with average sides. He has proved it. And thats why the majority of the liverpool fans backed him. Guest ( I'm guessing you peteskee), Rafa didnt tinker before we beat chelsea and took us to the top of the table. We, or should i say I believed he was over that and learned. I was never a fan of his rotation and his ludicrous substitutions, I even mentioned that in previous posts in the early days of these forums. Rafa would have been a fantastic manager for liverpool if he just chose hes best in every game, and rest them when we are 2-0 or 3-0 up. If he did his tinkering in the fa and carling cup only it would be perfect. A manager isnt only a guy that picks a team (which is clearly his downfall).. He is great a building a squad, and a very well balanced one too. He has got many positives and thats why he was backed, you cant tell me 2 million liverpool fans were blinded. maybe 5000 could have been but the rest must have seen something. You guys might say we were blinded but i think it wasnt just that. We were trying to see the bigger picture. You guys didnt go through the 14 year spell without a title (spurs werent expected to win it), liverpool fans were desperate to see improvement and thats what Rafa gave us. What do you expect, every liverpool fan to say OK FUCK Rafa!! He must go now! And now everybody is going to say: I told you so!
Roy Evans, Souness, Houllier couldnt build half the squad Rafa did. What do you want us to go back to that? Its easy for other fans to say that when you dont really support the team coz it wont be you that suffers the concequences. And even if we did get a better manager to replace him he still deserved his chance! There is more pressure at liverpool than you guys think. Everyone here knows a manager needs time, Fergie and Wenger proved that, and think the Scolari situation is proving that too.. The thing i dont understand the most is that when we were on top, why did he start tinkering when we never really had difficult fixture? We could have been well clear of the rest with 15 games to go we could have now been very close to been champions. This is what dissappoints me. We had our best chance and threw it away and mostly Rafas fault. Thats why i am just about to jump on the anti rafa train. Last season i said lets give him one more chance, this is it. Lets see what the decisions will be then.
First off i aint a bandwagon jumper i have said for ages now that his decision making is fucked i aint like other fans just goin mad now cos of your bad run...i actually watch a shitload of Liverpool games and feel i give a very fair view of u guys when i speak. Buddy you can harp on all day bout how he has improved the the squad (which he has) or how he had good cup runs but it all means fuck all as a manager if he cant get the most important one right! How the fuck is he taking off key players off with only a 1 goal cusion? Even Redknapp is playing our best possible at the moment in the league all the time....look i aint even saying fire him but i think he has cost u a great shot at the league...thing is if he learns for next season ok but how can u guarentee this? Anyways he has fucked up your best chance in 20yrs buddy unforgiveable IMO what a shocker he has had of late....absolutly pathetic i would be gutted as a Pool fan!
First off i aint a bandwagon jumper i have said for ages now that his decision making is fucked i aint like other fans just goin mad now cos of your bad run...i actually watch a shitload of Liverpool games and feel i give a very fair view of u guys when i speak. Buddy you can harp on all day bout how he has improved the the squad (which he has) or how he had good cup runs but it all means fuck all as a manager if he cant get the most important one right! How the fuck is he taking off key players off with only a 1 goal cusion? Even Redknapp is playing our best possible at the moment in the league all the time....look i aint even saying fire him but i think he has cost u a great shot at the league...thing is if he learns for next season ok but how can u guarentee this? Anyways he has fucked up your best chance in 20yrs buddy unforgiveable IMO what a shocker he has had of late....absolutly pathetic i would be gutted as a Pool fan!
-peteskee
But this is exactly what i'm saying. I know you've been saying it for long, a lot of fans have been. I've backed him and been fair but i feel i'm at a crossroad now cos like you say, its unforgivable. 2 years ago when we were sitting 4th and he made decisions like this it wasnt so bad, but we were sitting on top of the table and challenging for the title and with our best chance in 18 years and he starts gambling! That is like you say, unforgivable and my u-turn on how i feel (not sure if i'll get over it). I would have at that point played my best 11 every game in the league and who cares about the FA cup or even the Champions league for 1 season! I mean the league is what we want most isnt it?
The only thing i'm saying or point im trying to bring across is that you or other fans couldn't have expected to us to give up on Rafa so easily. I dont think that would have been fair to him or more importantly to the club. Liverpool fans want the best for the club so obviously if a year ago sacking him would have been the best for the club then the majority would have said so, and if it means sacking him now then so be it. He has brought us a long way, we are way more respected around the world than what we were 5 years ago. But if this is as far as he can bring us then its time for change, but it couldnt have been expected sooner than the end of this season. Thats all i'm saying.
Yeah i agree im not exactly saying give up on the guy now especially if there is fuck all better available...i think he has brought u a long way and has done a great job & and if can really learn from his mistakes for next season then so be it keep him there is a good chance he does change he seems to improve season by season! Anyways my point was only that he has fucked up huge and it is unforgiveable IMO end of story im not gonna carry on and say fire him blah blah cos i really doubt there is much better available now....a couple of class winger additions next season him droppin his unusual love for Kuyt and sorting out his dumb selections at times and substitutions and next season is there again....what a golden opportunity chucked away tho!
Exaclty, but will he learn? This is where i've lost faith. In the beggining of the season i was saying he "if you actually look at his team selection, he's done well (except i didnt understand the babel part). Now i can say the same thing? No way. He takes off torres and gerrard when we desperately need a goal to finish it, and to keep you in the title race? Unbelievable!
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